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Today’s Facilitator:
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Important Events:
(List the important events from each chapter of the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of these events.)
Ch. 22
Ch. 23
Ch. 24 and letters
Important Passages:
(List at least one important passage from the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of this passage.)
Focus Questions:
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1. It is sometimes said that the key to living a responsible and happy life is to balance intellectual and emotional pursuits. What does this mean to you? How is this reflected in the novel? What are the positive and negative consequences of relying more on your intellect than your emotions?
2. Discuss the two letters from Elizabeth (chapter 6 and chapter 22). How are they similar/different? Why? How does she address Victor? When were the letters written? Which one is more optimistic? In the second letter, do you think she knows more than meets the eye?
3. Discuss Victor’s decision to leave Elizabeth on their wedding night. Victor expected the creature to attack, so why did he leave her alone? How do Victor and his family react to Elizabeth’s death? How is this a significant event?
4. Discuss the following passage: “Do so, if you will; but I will not. You may give up your purpose, but mine is assigned to me by Heaven and I dare not. I am weak; but surely the spirits who assist my vengeance will endow me with sufficient strength.” Why has Walton decided to turn around? What is Victor’s response? After Victor collapses, he asks Walton to do what? Why do you think Walton does not fulfill Victor’s request?
5. Throughout the book, Victor is seen as a weak and inefficient man whose passivity generates only suffering and death. He also is flawed in that he has an inability to change and an inability to see the truth. Discuss these statements and give examples from the text.
6. Over and over again the monster blames his transformation from a benevolent being into a murderer on humanity’s lack of compassion. Discuss your opinion of his remarks at the end of the novel. What do you think of the monsters side of the story?
Extra Time – Discussion Notes:
(Record any additional discussion. What did you find most interesting? Did you disagree about anything? Was something important realized? What literary terms did you discuss? What do you think about the characters and their actions? ETC…)
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Today’s Blogger:
Paige Robinson
Today’s Facilitator:
Keil Eggers
Important Events:
Frankenstein and his father stopped in Paris
Frankenstein receives letter from Elizabeth
Frankenstein tells Elizabeth he loves her and can’t live without her
Frankenstein and Elizabeth get married
The monster kills Elizabeth
Frankenstein tells his father about Elizabeth’s death, father dies three days later
Frankenstein wants to hunt down monster and kill him, follows him all the way to the Northern ice
Walton saved Frankenstein because he was trapped on ice
Frankenstein died
Monster cries on top of Frankenstein
Walton sends letters to his wife that he was coming home
Important Passages:
”’That is also my victim!’ he exclaimed. ‘In his murder my crimes are consummated; the miserable series of my being is wound to its close! Oh Frankenstein! Generous and self-devoted being. What does it avail that I now ask thee to pardon me. I, who irretrievably destroyed thee by destroying all thou lovedst. Alas! He is cold, he cannot answer me.’” Page 228
Focus Questions:
3. He left her alone because he though the monster was going to attack him, and he didn’t want Elizabeth to see him and the monster fight. Victor and his family were all extremely sad, and Victor was very angry because the monster was his creation so he feels party responsible. This is a significant event because it makes Victor really unhappy, and it makes him want to go destroy the monster and get revenge.
4. He decides to turn around because his crew does not want to die. Victor’s angry at the crew members and he tries to talk them out of it. Victor tells Walton to track down the monster and kill it for him. Walton does not fulfill Victor’s request because the monster says he will kill himself.
6. He is right because everywhere he went all he encountered was hate. If he had someone to love him he probably would have acted differently. But the monster could have acted in more productive ways such as reasoning with Victor rather than killing his family and his love ones, and then Victor would have been more inclined to create a loved one for him, and maybe even love the monster himself.
Extra Time – Discussion Notes:
It was interesting how he actually killed Elizabeth. As unkind as the monster was, we did not think he would go so far as to kill the person that Frankenstein loved the most.
Blogger: Nate Davis
Facilitator: Dakota Driscoll
Important events:
22: Victor tells Elizabeth that he will have happiness with no one but her. Victor and Elizabeth marry and go to an island for their honeymoon.
23: Victor is freaking out because the monster said he would be there on his wedding night. Elizabeth screams and she is killed by the monster. Victor goes into a depression. He tries to start a mob but no one believes him. Victor father also dies of old age.
24: Victor chases the monster for weeks on end. At the end of the chase Victor ends up in the middle of the Artic Circle. Victor tells Walton to give the monster no mercy and kill him.
Letters: Frankenstein tells Walton that he thought he was destined for great things. Walton is worried that his letters won't make it to Maragret. Victor tells off the guys who are being cowards. Walton promises his men that they will return south if they break free. Victor dies. The monster comes and says his good byes to Victor. And then the monster kills himself.
Passages: "I shall die"- This is what the monster says after Victor dies.
Questions:
1: Most things are good in moderation and do not become obsessive of emotional and intellectual things. Victor obsessives over the scientific aspects and the monster obsessives over the emotional aspects. Positive you make better decisions and negative you live without feeling.
3:He left her alone because he is an idiot. They all became depressed because she was the rock in the family. Its important because Victor's happiness relied on Elizabeth now she is dead.
6: The monster's side is better because Victor waits for the monster until he has nothing left instead of taking a chance. The monster had to fight for himself and everyone he met was cruel.
Today's Blogger:
Katy Thellman
Today's Facilitator:
Patrick Carttar
Important Events:
Ch. 22:
• Victor receives a letter from Elizabeth talking about their marriage.
• Victor writes back and promises to tell her his secret after they're married.
• Victor and Elizabeth get married.
• They head off to Evian in a boat.
Ch. 23:
• Victor sends Elizabeth off to bed.
• The monster kills Elizabeth while Victor is keeping watch.
• The town looks for a monster.
• Victor's dad dies in his arms.
• Victor swears revenge on the monster and seeks to kill him.
Ch. 24 and Letters:
• Victor leaves Geneva.
• Victor determines that he will die in mortal combat with the monster.
• Victor follows the monster's path, hoping to meet up with him for a fight.
• Victor meets up with Walton and tells him his story.
• Victor tells Walton to give the monster no mercy if he ever finds him.
• Walton declares that he’s going to go back to England.
• Victor dies!!!!
• The monster comes to look at Victor’s body.
• The monster talks to Walton and describes his deep despair.
• The monster says that he is going to disappear and kill himself by catching on fire.
Important Passage:
• About half an hour afterwards he attempted again to speak but was unable; he pressed my hand feebly, and his eyes closed forever, while the irradiation of a gentle smile passed away from his lips. Pg. 227. Boom!! Victor is dead and all of the protagonists have died.
Focus Questions:
3. Victor’s decision was stupid. He believed the monster was going to go after him, not Elizabeth, so he tried to get her out of the way of the fight. The monster then attacked her to get at Victor psychologically, and Elizabeth died. Victor and his family go into a deep depression and they all died. The person Victor loved the most is now dead. His one chance at happiness is lost.
4. Walton’s crews’ spirits are crushed and he decides to turn around to give them hope and out of fear of a mutiny. Victor disagrees with this and refuses to return home. He asks Walton to seek out the monster and kill him and not fall for the monster’s trickery. Walton is scared and feels for the monster.
6. We agree with the statement and think that if humans had been kinder to the monster and been compassionate, the monster wouldn’t have killed everyone and been good. But, they were mean and he became mean. We feel bad for the monster and think that he should have been cared for better, but we don’t think the best way to get revenge for that was to go and kill everyone.
Today’s Blogger: Eric Studley
(Who is typing today?)
Today’s Facilitator: Haylo P.
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Important Events:
(List the important events from each chapter of the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of these events.)
Victor is sent to prison
His dad visits him in prison
He gets out of prison
Elisabeth dies
Chases monster
Victor dies on Walton’s ship
the monster comes and laments victors death
Ch. 22
Ch. 23
Ch. 24 and letters
Important Passages:
(List at least one important passage from the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of this passage.)
“Great God! Why did I not then expire! Why am I here to relate the destruction of the best hope and the purest creature of Earth? She was there, lifeless and inanimate, thrown across the bed, her head hanging down and her pale and distorted features half covered by her hair.”
Focus Questions:
(Discuss the questions below. Record your discussion for at least three of the following questions.)
1. It is sometimes said that the key to living a responsible and happy life is to balance intellectual and emotional pursuits. What does this mean to you? How is this reflected in the novel? What are the positive and negative consequences of relying more on your intellect than your emotions?
2. Discuss the two letters from Elizabeth (chapter 6 and chapter 22). How are they similar/different? Why? How does she address Victor? When were the letters written? Which one is more optimistic? In the second letter, do you think she knows more than meets the eye?
3. Discuss Victor’s decision to leave Elizabeth on their wedding night. Victor expected the creature to attack, so why did he leave her alone? How do Victor and his family react to Elizabeth’s death? How is this a significant event?
Victor left Elizabeth alone because he thought the monster was coming for him, and not for Elizabeth. Victor and his family reacted with extreme sadness. This is a significant event because it seals the fate of either the monster or Victor, that one of them would die.
4. Discuss the following passage: “Do so, if you will; but I will not. You may give up your purpose, but mine is assigned to me by Heaven and I dare not. I am weak; but surely the spirits who assist my vengeance will endow me with sufficient strength.” Why has Walton decided to turn around? What is Victor’s response? After Victor collapses, he asks Walton to do what? Why do you think Walton does not fulfill Victor’s request?
He saw the monster had such pity for his death and even he if killed him it wouldn’t be enough. Victor asks Walton to kill the monster.
5. Throughout the book, Victor is seen as a weak and inefficient man whose passivity generates only suffering and death. He also is flawed in that he has an inability to change and an inability to see the truth. Discuss these statements and give examples from the text.
6. Over and over again the monster blames his transformation from a benevolent being into a murderer on humanity’s lack of compassion. Discuss your opinion of his remarks at the end of the novel. What do you think of the monsters side of the story?
His killing isn’t justified but we can understand why he is mad because nobody ever really gave him a chance to be nice.
Extra Time – Discussion Notes:
(Record any additional discussion. What did you find most interesting? Did you disagree about anything? Was something important realized? What literary terms did you discuss? What do you think about the characters and their actions? ETC…)
Typer = Zachary Hill
Chapter 22 important events
• Victor has to stop in Paris because he is sick
• Father thinks he is going mad
• Elizabeth writes him a letter about them getting married and her concerns
• Victor and Elizabeth got married
Chapter 23 important events
• Elizabeth is killed
• He frantically tries to search for the monster, then goes home
• Father dies in his arms after being depressed with all of their misfortunes
• Victor is jailed for being accused as insane
Chapter 24 important events
• Victor convinces magistrate that he is innocent, and tries to get support to chase down the monster
• Visits family’s graves, promises to revenge them
• Chases the monster to the north visits town gets sled dogs and a sled and continues his chase
• When he was just about to die, he found Walton’s ship
• Told his story
• Victor finally dies
• The monster comes “regretting” killing his family, but is still mad at victor, talks to Walton
• Says he’s going to go as far north as possible and burn himself
• Bids farewell jumps into his vessel and disappears
Quote: “As I heard it, the whole truth rushed into my mind, my arms dropped, the motion of every muscle and fiber was suspended; I could feel the blood trickling in my veins and tingling in the extremities of my limbs.”
1. They key to living a happy life is to balance your emotions and your intellectual pursuits. In the novel victor does a poor job of balancing these two things and ends up losing his family and friends, the negative consequences of relying more on your intellect is you neglect your family and friends although you become very smart and know a lot of information, the negative consequences of relying on your emotions are that you shelter yourself from things and don’t learn anything although you enjoy the small thing in life.
2. The letters from Elizabeth represent her love for victor and how much she doesn’t want to lose him. In both of them she is concerned about his well-being and wants him to come home. In the first letter she addresses him as “my dearest cousin” and in the second on she calls him “my dear friend”. The first letter was written after he first created the monster and when he fell ill. The second letter was when he was coming home from Ireland and he was sick, and the second letter is more optimistic. She knows about the marriage ides and doesn’t want to force him to do anything he doesn’t want to do.
3. He left Elizabeth on their wedding night to wait for the monster, so she would have to face him. He wanted to her alone so he could take the monster himself. He thought the monster wanted to attack him, not Elizabeth. Victor is surprised with her death and becomes extremely depressed. His father becomes extremely ill and soon dies. This is a significant event because Victor finally gets the monster’s intentions and finally seeks revenge on him.
Today’s Blogger:
Annie Libeer
Today’s Facilitator:
Beckett Martin
Important Events:
-Victor returns to Paris
-Elizabeth sends Victor a letter asking him if he still wants to get married.
-Victor says yes and they get married
-Elizabeth dies.
- Victors father dies.
-Victor decides that he will devote his time to killing the monster.
-Victor dies on the ship
Important Passages:
”Be happy, my dear Victor,” replied Elizabeth; “there is, I hope nothing to distress you and be assured that if a lively joy is not painted in my face, my heart is contented.
Focus Questions:
1. This passage means that sometimes you should plan out things and do what is right, but you also have to sometimes go with your gut and just do something spontaneously. If there is a happy balance of planned events and spontaneous events then you will have a happy life. This reflects to the novel because Victor made the decision to create Frankenstein’s monster with out really considering the consequences and once he did he realized that he did something very wrong. Sometimes you can want to do something to see if you can do it, some type of experiment or project, when it might not be the best thing to do.
3.
Victor decided to leave Elizabeth on their wedding night because he though that the monster was going to kill him not his wife. When Elizabeth dies, Victor goes into another depression. Neither he or his family thought that she was going to die. This is a very significant event because Victor loved Elizabeth and her dying was very tragic and had a big impact on the characters in the work.
5. Victor is seen as weak and inefficient because he is always depressed and mad at himself for creating the monster. Throughout the book, Victor is seen as a weak and inefficient man whose passivity generates only suffering and death. He also is flawed in that he has an inability to change and an inability to see the truth. Discuss these statements and give examples from the text.
6. I feel bad for the monster at the end of the book. I can see where he is coming from but, I don’t necessary agree with the way he handles things.
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