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Important Events:(List the important events from each chapter of the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of these events.)
Ch. 18
Ch. 19
Ch. 20
Ch. 21
Important Passages:
(List at least one important passage from the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of this passage.)
Focus Questions:
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1.Discuss Victor’s creation of the female creature. What keeps him from completing it? In your opinion, why does the creature direct his revenge to Victor’s wedding?
2. How does Victor become lost at sea? What happens when he lands in Ireland? Why does he call himself Henry Clerval’s murderer? Were you expecting Henry’s death?
3. Throughout the book, Shelley creates a feeling of suspense. Find three examples of this and explain how/why they create this feeling.
4. Discuss the parallels between William’s death and Henry’s death. How are they similar? How does Victor feel, react, etc.? Discuss the consequences Victor faces because of his creation.
5. What responsibilities does Victor, as the creator, have toward his monster? Does lack of parental love and support justify revenge or attempting to seize that love no matter what the cost? Should the monster ultimately be held responsible for his crimes?
Extra Time – Discussion Notes:
(Record any additional discussion. What did you find most interesting? Did you disagree about anything? Was something important realized? What literary terms did you discuss? What do you think about the characters and their actions? ETC…)
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Today's Blogger: Tony Libeer
Today's Facilitator: Dakota Driscoll
Important events:
ch. 18- Victor stalls the creation of the monster's mate. He departs on his journey with Clerval.
ch. 19- Victor and Clerval travel around Europe. Victor leaves Clerval to create the female in a remote area in Scotland.
ch. 20- He destroys what he has started of the female and the monster vows to get him back, telling Victor that he will be with him on his wedding night. Victor then desposes of the body parts, falls asleep in his boat, and floats to Ireland.
Ch. 21- Victor is blamed for Henry's death. When he sees the body he becomes very ill.
Important passages:
"It is well. I go; but remember, I shall be with you on your wedding-night." pg. 173
1. Victor decides not to create the female monster because he does not want another monster to walk the earth. He thinks that if he gives the monster a mate, they will reproduce he will have created a race of devils on earth. When the monster finds out that he has stopped creating his mate, the monster vows to see Victor at his wedding day. He directs his revenge to Victor's wedding because he does not want Victor to be happy, just as he is not happy.
2. Victor becomes lost because he falls asleep at sea. He eventually floats to ireland. Victor calls himself Henry's murderer because he created the monster that killed him. We were expecting Henry's death because we knew that the monster would try to hurt Victor as much as possible.
4. William's death and Henry's death are similar because they were both at the hands of the monster by strangling. In both cases, Victor is appaled by what has happened and he is very sad. Because he has created the monster, he must deal with it whenever it is not happy, or he must pay, as he did with the deaths of William and Henry.
Todays Blogger: Liesel
Todays Facilitator: Patrick
Important Events:
Ch. 18
- Victor agrees to marry Elizabeth after he gets back from England.
- He travels a lot with Clerval.
Ch. 19
-Victor convinces Clerval to go out on his own so he can work on the monster.
-He goes to Scotland to work on the monster.
Ch. 20
-The monster looks in the window Victor destroys the half built monster.
-Then Victor tells the monster that he isn't going to make the monster.
-Victor is caught in a storm on the sea and lands in Ireland.
-In Ireland he accused of murdering Clerval.
Ch.21
-After Victor sees Clerval he goes insane.
-In two months, he wakes up and his father has come to visit him.
-They prove his innocence and go back to Geneva.
Important passages:
"It is well. I go; but remember, I shall be with you on your wedding-night." pg. 173
This makes Victor think and foreshadows death and what is to happen.
"You are my creator but I am your master. Obey!" pg. 172
This is important because frankenstien has lost control of his creation and the monster is manipulating him.
Focus Questions:
1. The female creature was gross and ugly, worse than that of the original. Victor does not complete it because he does not trust the other monster to keep his word, and he thinks that if he creates this monster, there will be two of them out there creating double destruction. The creature directs his revenge to Victors wedding because it is his only source of happiness, and it would affect him the most. Also it is the fathers most important thing at the moment.
2. Victor becomes lost at sea because he falls asleep in the boat. He is accused of murder in Ireland. He feels that he murdered Henry because he created the monster that did. We were not expecting Henry's death, it was a complete surprise.
4. The monster stangled both Henry and William. They were both very close to the monsters creator... Victor. Victor reacts by feeling it is his fault and going into a deep depression. Victor faces the consequences because his closest friends are getting murdered.
5. He was responsible for creating and caring for the creature, and his lack of love and sympathy justifies the revenge that the monster is about to take. Victor should be held responcible for his monsters crimes.
Today’s Blogger:
Rachelle Hamilton
Today’s Facilitator:
Dylan Bergstrom
Important Events:
-Questions decision to make female creation
-Frankenstein left for England, for a 2-year tour with Henry Clerval
-Leaves Henry in Scotland, goes to deserted island off of Ireland
-Sees his creation outside the window, so he messes up the female
-Monster says he’ll be with him on his wedding day
-Takes remains of female and dumps them in the ocean
-Falls asleep in a boat
-Wind current pulls him into ocean, away from shore
-Wind changes, brings him back
-Upon returning to shore, some people accuse him of murder
-Take him to the body, it is Henry Clerval
-Monster’s hand marks are on his neck
-Becomes very ill after seeing Henry’s body for a long time
-He is in prison when he awakes, and his father visits
-Father helps prove Frankenstein innocent
-They return to Geneva
Important Passages:
“It is well. I go; but remember, I shall be with you on your wedding-night.” page 173
Focus Questions:
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1. Frankenstein thought it would be as hideous as the first, he didn’t want to create a race of monster children, and he didn’t want accomplices to kill his loved ones. The monster would get revenge at the wedding by killing Frankenstein’s bride, so neither would have a wife.
2. Frankenstein fell asleep in a boat, and the wind current swept him away. When he land is Ireland, he is accused of murder, and he accepts the charges because he created the killer. We were not expecting the death of Henry Clerval. It came as quite a shock.
4. Henry and Williams death are similar because both were strangled, someone was sent to jail, they were both close to Frankenstein, he blames himself for both deaths
5. He has the responsibility to care for the monster, give it what it wants and keep it under control. He is neglecting all of these responsibilities. Frankenstein should be held responsible for everything the monster does, just like a parent would be held accountable for a child.
Typer: Amy Meyers
Chapter 18:
Events:
-Victor goes to England
-Victor is depressed; father thinks it is because he has to marry Elizabeth
-On his return from England, he will marry Elizabeth
-Victor is afraid that the monster will not stay away from his family while he is gone.
Chapter 19:
Events
-Victor and Henry part
-Henry goes to live with some Scotts
-Victor goes to live in the northern highlands (Orkneys)
-bought some furniture and repaired the house he rented to live in
Chapter 20:
Events
-Victor decides to not make a companion and destroys her and dumps her into the sea (she might not like the other monster, hurt other humans, or they might reproduce)
-Victor wakes up after falling asleep on his boat, completely lost
-Finds land (Ireland?), and is taken in for questioning for a dead man that had recently been found
Chapter 21
Events
-The monster killed Henry Clerval by strangling him
-Victor is sentenced to jail time as a suspect of the crime
-Freed, proven innocent, leaves for Geneva
Quote: “The wretch saw me destroy the creature on whose future existence he depended for happiness, and with a howl of devilish despair and revenge, withdrew.”
1. Victor is not happy with having to create a female companion for the monster. He decides to destroy her because he is afraid that she will not like the monster, she did not agree to not hurting any humans, and the two monsters might reproduce. The monster’s revenge is directed towards Victor’s wedding because the most grieve will be felt when he is being married to the one he loves.
2. Victor becomes lost at sea because he decides to go on a boat to get the whole monster thing out of his head. He falls asleep on the ship, and the wind takes him far away from shore. When he lands in Ireland, everyone gives him a dirty look. Victor is then taken to the magistrate to be questioned for a death that had occurred the night before. He calls himself Henry Clerval’s murderer because he was the one who created the monster and he was the one who to go against the monster’s wishes. He feels that he is responsible for his death. I was expecting Henry’s death because the monster ran off really quick after Victor defied him, and got into a boat. I was pretty sure he was either going to get Henry, or go back to Geneva and kill one of his other family members.
3. When Victor creates the monster – this creates suspense because the reader wants to know what will happen next. The quote on the front of the book also relates to this suspense.
When William is killed – makes the reader wonder what happened and who killed him
When Victor agrees to create the female monster – The reader wants to read on to see if Victor follows through with his plans
4. William’s death and Henry’s death were both caused by the monster because he was mad during both times at Victor. Victor becomes very depressed and angry with the monster in both these happenings. The consequences that Victor has to face because of the monster, and not helping him is the death of all of his family members and a life of sadness.
Today’s Blogger:
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Jeffrey
Today’s Facilitator:
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Steven Thomas Norris
Important Events:(List the important events from each chapter of the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of these events.)
Ch. 18: Frankenstein returns to Geneva, plans his marriage to Elizabeth, departs to England.
Ch. 19: Went to London with Henry Clerval, visit many famous spots in London, left and went to Windsor, then went to Oxford, starts his work on the monster’s companion.
Ch. 20: Continues his work on the monster, then finds his original monster and destroys his companion. The monster promises he will be with him on his wedding night. The monster then flees on a boat. Gets taken prisoner on a boat because the monster framed him for a murder.
Ch. 21: Goes on trial for a murder, then Frankenstein finds out he is being tried for Henry’s murder. His father comes to visit him. He is freed from prison.
Important Passages:
(List at least one important passage from the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of this passage.)
Focus Questions:
(Discuss the questions below. Record your discussion for at least four of the following questions.)
1.Discuss Victor’s creation of the female creature. What keeps him from completing it? In your opinion, why does the creature direct his revenge to Victor’s wedding?
Morals. He feels that he should not create another creature like his monster, because he does not want two monsters going around killing people, or so he thinks. The creature directs his revenge to Victor’s wedding because Frankenstein did not create him a companion, therefore the monster will kill his.
2. How does Victor become lost at sea? What happens when he lands in Ireland? Why does he call himself Henry Clerval’s murderer? Were you expecting Henry’s death?
Victor becomes lost at sea because his boat broke. When he lands in Ireland, the people treat him hostilely because they think he is Henry’s murderer. He calls himself Clerval’s murderer because he knows he created the monster, who killed Clerval. I wasn’t expecting Henry’s death, because the monster made no mention of killing Clerval.
3. Throughout the book, Shelley creates a feeling of suspense. Find three examples of this and explain how/why they create this feeling.
4. Discuss the parallels between William’s death and Henry’s death. How are they similar? How does Victor feel, react, etc.? Discuss the consequences Victor faces because of his creation.
They were both strangled, and they were both ultimately to make Victor suffer by killing people close to him. Victor feels like he is the cause for their deaths because he created the monster. Victor faced the consequences of being tried for murder because the monster framed him.
5. What responsibilities does Victor, as the creator, have toward his monster? Does lack of parental love and support justify revenge or attempting to seize that love no matter what the cost? Should the monster ultimately be held responsible for his crimes?
He has the responsibility of loving the monster and providing a companion for it. No, it does not. The monster should be held responsible for his crimes.
Extra Time – Discussion Notes:
(Record any additional discussion. What did you find most interesting? Did you disagree about anything? Was something important realized? What literary terms did you discuss? What do you think about the characters and their actions? ETC…)
Blogger: Will Libeer
Facilitator: Annie Libeer
Important Events:
-Victor puts off create a female creature
- He visits with his father and he is engaged to Elizabeth, but he can only marry her after he finishes creating his female creature
-He travels to England with Henry and begins to work on the female creature.
-He cannot create another creature and disposes of his work
-The creature tells Victor he will be with him on his wedding night.
-Henry is killed and Victor is blamed.
Important Passage:
“The hour of my irresolution is past, and the period of your power is arrived. Your threats cannot move me to do an act of wickedness; but they confirm me in a determination of not creating you a companion in vice. Shall I, in cool blood, set loose upon the earth a demon whose delight is in death and wretchedness?”
Questions:
1. Victor feels that he cannot create another monster because there would be two of them and they could possibly reproduce and create a new race. Victor could not be responsible for the possible outcomes and crimes of the creatures. The monster targets Victor on his wedding day because he wants Victor to be lonely and feel what the monster has felt.
2. Victor becomes lost at sea trying to dispose of the “parts” he was using to create the female creature. Victor decides to take a rest, and while he is resting the winds change and he is unable to get back to shore for a while. When Victor finally lands in Ireland he is suspected of killing his friend Henry Clerval, whose body was found washed up on the beach. Victor calls himself Henry’s murderer because he knows that the creature killed Henry. Henry’s death was foreshadowed because Victor had left Henry alone while he was out dumping the thing that the creature wants most.
4. Henry and William’s deaths were very similar because they were both killed by the creature because they had something to do with Victor and the wrong person was suspected in both killings. Victor feels responsible for both deaths and becomes depressed. The consequences Victor faces are the deaths of his loved ones.
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